Going To University...
The Government wants to get more people through the education system and into University if they win the election which will happen this year...and have more people go into middle class jobs.
People are struggling to find such jobs even when they attend or succeed at University.
University places are at a premium and many people cannot get into Uni even those who wish to for a variety of reasons such as the problem of paying back grants or those who are not being given any help financially. Years ago University education was free.
If everyone or many more enter that sector of society once again what jobs are available?
And if the jobs are not available will those who have qualified and have lots of qualifications want to do the menial jobs that are not paying well and were seen as working class?
And if many more do go into middle class jobs(again we're using class as the way to express what a certain job or profession is)there will be a shortage of people to do jobs that are looked down on(wrongly)but are very important for a society to function.
What does a politician do as an example...they pass laws that society has to live by/follow but really what they do is attend meetings, lecture, talk but the work is done by departments, experts and others that are consulted. You still need someone to do the physical work whether it's building property, digging a road, laying electric cable, delivering of goods etc...
And once you start defining or trying to compare the importance of one profession with another you get onto very sticky ground probably even more so when you try to decide someones worth in monetary terms.
Years ago a University was a seat of learning to improve oneself...today it is very much tied into the economy of the country.
Update:Amazingly having written the above and hearing how important further education is to the Nation's economy and prosperity, the news has come out that funds and grants are to be frozen and therefore many Universities will struggle to continue with their plans and to offer places for many of the students that had planned to attend. It kind of contradicts what we have been told about how important these seats of learning are.
I assume there is the hope that more private money will be invested but as many companies and benefactors are struggling to survive this is not necessarily going to happen.
People are struggling to find such jobs even when they attend or succeed at University.
University places are at a premium and many people cannot get into Uni even those who wish to for a variety of reasons such as the problem of paying back grants or those who are not being given any help financially. Years ago University education was free.
If everyone or many more enter that sector of society once again what jobs are available?
And if the jobs are not available will those who have qualified and have lots of qualifications want to do the menial jobs that are not paying well and were seen as working class?
And if many more do go into middle class jobs(again we're using class as the way to express what a certain job or profession is)there will be a shortage of people to do jobs that are looked down on(wrongly)but are very important for a society to function.
What does a politician do as an example...they pass laws that society has to live by/follow but really what they do is attend meetings, lecture, talk but the work is done by departments, experts and others that are consulted. You still need someone to do the physical work whether it's building property, digging a road, laying electric cable, delivering of goods etc...
And once you start defining or trying to compare the importance of one profession with another you get onto very sticky ground probably even more so when you try to decide someones worth in monetary terms.
Years ago a University was a seat of learning to improve oneself...today it is very much tied into the economy of the country.
Update:Amazingly having written the above and hearing how important further education is to the Nation's economy and prosperity, the news has come out that funds and grants are to be frozen and therefore many Universities will struggle to continue with their plans and to offer places for many of the students that had planned to attend. It kind of contradicts what we have been told about how important these seats of learning are.
I assume there is the hope that more private money will be invested but as many companies and benefactors are struggling to survive this is not necessarily going to happen.
4 Comments:
It's a scam Gildy. New labour from day 1 have tried to get 50% of school leavers into Unis. They did this because they said it was "fair"; the fact that half of that 50% shouldn't (and normally wouldn't) have wanted or needed to go is besides the point as far as NL were concerned. They need all those poeple in futher education for long enough to help their stats (less unemployment, more eductaion) and to boost the population of "workers" by immigration. (this they knew would happen anyway - EU etc - to a certain extent but they also encouraged more and more). Obviously that's a very rough and short summary but the be all and end all is that only a small percentage NEED to go to Uni, WANT to go to Uni.
I agree Span. In the past how many teenagers that came out of school wnated to go straight into work or take up an apprenticeship? One size does not fit all.
I did not have the desire to go to Uni nor do I expect that it would have made any difference to my career.
I feel as intellegent or as important as anyone else and the whole of your life is a learning experience or can be.
If on the other hand you work and look after your family, stay out of trouble and bother few should they be be seen as poorer, I'm not sure that they should.
They are still putting something back into society.
Not everyone with a higher education does that. It's what you do with it.
At a time when they go on about looking after the environment the goals suggested for this policy include aspiring to having a big house, a car, a holiday abroad etc...
On a previous post I said that if you are well enough to work, have a job that you love and are well paid, that is a bonus but if you are only living to work and working all the hours of the day and haven't the time to enjoy the fruits of your labour and are constantly looking over your shoulder in case someone does better than you, that is not a life.
Gildy! I agree with every single word you have just posted...BUT...I only popped back to tell you of an amusing coincidence (see my latest post)
Good posts Gildy. I think you and Span have pretty much nailed this one, university standard education is a requirement of many professions but I know employers who would rather take on somebody with experience than somebody who just has the qualifications.
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